on recent post we said, 'go ahead and kill yourself ', in the context of severely depressed or suffering people with no loved ones. .. That's not the right thing to say, instead, I'd say, spend some time reading the hundreds and hundreds of testimonials from near death survivors, especially the ones that see hell.
interestingly, in the gospels, ee have the seldom explored notion of plucking your eyeballs out. Many christian aspirers dismiss it as metaphor, but it's not completely metaphor. The notion is visited in Shakespeare's king lear where his treacherous daughters Regan and Goneril rip out his eyeballs with the help of their wicked husbands. It's interesting that lear in English is to ogle or stare excessively, ie, in the case of lust. Although king lear was too old to be lustful and instead was proud and arrogant and had two incredibly nasty daughters (and one good one too, Cordelia).
Anyway, the notion of severing and damaging body parts and self harming are not considered christian however Christ deemed it was God's will for him to suffer crucifixion. Happily people today are more civilized, except in the middle east and Africa where crucifixion and savagery persists.
if you were prone to crucifying people because of Islamic fundamentalist beliefs, maybe your soul would be better off in the afterlife by chopping your hand off? Maybe if you're an Isis zealot that crucifies people it means you're really an infidel and the proof of that is that you don't chop your own hand off. Nietzsche warned us to beware of those who wish to punish. By all accounts, the evil demons of hell love to punish
valium, risperdal, zoloft. It's amazing to think with so few drugs to treat various disorders it's even necessary to be a doctor to prescribe them. And what's the point of studying psychotherapy when noone uses it as the money is in drug prescription, which requires quickly moving on to the next nut. Beware of addiction in the afterlife also as it may lead to suffering in hell whether it's pot, alcohol, nicotine, valium, etc.
so what do we believe about the afterlife at present? First of all, it's a timeless realm. Being such, being dead temporarily for ten minutes or permanently between lifetimes for an average of say seventy years is all the same since time doesn't exist there, only states, by all accounts. Your soul won't be dead in hell or heaven or bordering sort-out regions. It will feel alive and conscious and really be you and will feel attracted to hell if it belongs there.
Is it possible to completely lose your eternal soul, maybe in extremely rare cases of wickedness this is possible through some terribly painful experience although of course noone returns to hell or earth or heaven after complete annihilation so probably only some angels or something would really know. Benji does not really know. They do say this was the fate of many black magic wizards after Atlantis and lemuria disappeared under the oceans here on earth. Their souls were tortured and suffered very terribly to a very great extent and then were completely neutralized and snuffed out. I do not think the Nazi hierarchy earns this fate on the strength of their actions in Germany, far from it, but if they continue to incarnate together en masse every millenia or so, to do damage, maybe it could be their fate in hundreds of thousands of years from now. Hard to imagine so much evil in the world then though. Probably they can all be redeemed through various lifetimes like everyone else.
is hell real? Can I be tortured, tormented and burnt in the lake of fire like some kind of Hieronymus Bosch painting on hell for fornication (eg my days in LA), adulterous thoughts (eg., driving a taxi here in Sydney), stealing, being mean and hurtful to my wife and others, including myself etc etc etc. I never did believe so much, neither did many liberals and Jews, but now I'm not so sure. While I definitely believe in reincarnation for everyone, including angels and demons in their time, which could be eons from now one supposes, nevertheless, even seventy earth years spent in a perpetual hell which exists in eternity, in a timeless state outside of our known material realm, still classifies as an eternity in hell. Visitors from earth having near death experiences all report the same thing: Unrepentant fornicators, druggies, holier than thou power hungry christian types who don't really care about anyone except their own selfish nasty ends, adulterers, violent offenders, etc, all end up in hell and are tortured like victims of Saddam Hussein's state torture apparatus. The souls of the damned scream for help, are parched with thirst, have their fleshed ripped off continuously, are poked with spears, attacked by fiends, etc. After some purification here some souls can ascend to heaven for benedictions and blessings before reincarnating. I never did believe in this afterlife hell, thinking hell is an earthly condition, although I did believe the souls of suiciders went through terrible remorse and guilt (backflip: Actually don't suicide!)
bottom line, by denying reincarnation, believers in heaven and hell pervert the meaning of eternity and justice.
still that wicked wrongdoers are tortured in hell for seeming eternity or an eternal evil hell full of evil hateful demonic hordes for a period outside of time and space as we know it on earth, seems like the only way to deal with the persistently wicked. Many of whom we admire on earth as religious, cultural and political and business 'leaders'!
having mentioned all of that, and having just read various scores of near death experiences on the internet, many of which dealt with visits to hell and also even some youtube videos along these lines, it's worth mentioning benji's near death experience around approximately June 2007 from varicella which is like German measles and is frequently fatal in adults. I was immensely sick with varicella and my head really, really hurt. I drank half a bottle of vodka one night, maybe if I'd drunk the whole bottle I would have died. In hindsight, having died that night would have avoided me alot of pain in future months and years due to my choice of spouse or because of not being wired well or being a sinner or whatever. Without question I would have spent some time in hell due to murderous thoughts, anger, depression, fornicating, lying, taking drugs, abusing alcohol, being selfish, being a jerk, being incredibly lazy, ugly, lazy and disrespectful. This hypothesis is borne out by a black, demonic figure that was trying to strangle my throat with his hand FOR THE ENTIRE NIGHT THAT I SLEPT. Believing Jesus was a great savior would not have avoided punishment for all those sins mentioned either. The menacing demon dressed in black was faceless and had black garments around his entire body and just black air in front of his face. He definitely seemed like he was bringing me to hell for punishment. I'm also confident after that punishment I was headed to heaven and it was going to be sweet because of the final experience just upon waking in the morning after spending the entire night with hellman strangling me. It's very difficult to describe the heaven experience upon waking there but I can remember it's spiritual aspect very well. I expect to go to heaven after I die although I would understand if I suffer torment first due to having been a sinner (I forgot to mention eating meat which is also a sin). I hope dysfunction between my wife and I doesn't lead to greater torment in hell than what I might expect tomorrow were lightening to kill me then.
btw when I woke up that morning, my body was super cold and couldn't move it for almost a minute and even then just a little at a time. My heart was beating super slowly and my breaths were only a few per minute. Would have been interesting to have drunk that ENTIRE bottle of vodka instead of just half.
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